Yup, Jim, it all depends on whether it's fresh collected, chilled or frozen. I have a person who bought a show bitch from me several years ago. She finished her championship and has attempted to breed her twice - both frozen TCI -- which is not the option of choice for frozen. Of course, neither of the breedings took. I've told her repeatedly that if she's doing TCI, she needs fresh collected (actually the proposed sire resides right in her house), but sometimes people just don't listen. I've always done natural covers and haven't missed a breeding yet -- even the one that I didn't want to take (but which produced my beautiful Canon boy).

When you do the x-ray, I hope it's digital and you post it. I love picking out those little pupettes in the x-rays.

If any listers haven't ever seen a pre-whelp x-ray, I'd be glad to post a link to one of mine.