Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
[Re: JeffDinPA]
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I like the look of Wiggy with the wide angle and a HK background. But I did have to do a little PS work to completely burn out the background. I just couldn’t bring myself to letting that all look like a Blown Highlight!:) Am I wrong, should I have just blown it out right away?
Hi Jeff,
In my opinion, the goal is to eliminate the shadow whenever possible. I hate shadow. I also don't mind the fact that the whites look like they are registering close to 255. That is a personal opinion. Having said that, it is a very nice shot of Wiggly.
-JM
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Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
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03/03/06 08:25 AM
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JeffDinPA
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Thanks James, Eliminate shadows, I can do that. For so long I've worked to keep from blowing highlights, then here I am aiming for some. I assume as you say “registering close to 255” but not pushed to far “beyond” is the goal. I have three flashes, next time I will attempt to prevent all shadows and minimize clipping the whites. First I have to build up the ambition to prepare myself to the battle of wills to get Wiggy to sit still long enough:) Once the flash hits, he is gone!
Thanks,
Jeff
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Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
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03/03/06 11:18 AM
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JeffDinPA
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Unfortunately I am not using the Nikon system. I have to scrounge up a spare grand:) Until then I go manual with a couple old flashes. It works, and it's cheap. But I do end up with more of a headache from over-fiddling. I was thinking I would at least like to pick up a SB-800 and a softbox. I will play again one of these day. I also need a few grand to add an addition on the house so I don’t have to clean up every time I am done with a shoot:) I did this shot with 3 flashes. A small slave for backlighting. And two tilt heads with bounce cards. I will set my goal on shadow elimination and no blow highlights unless they are on the background.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
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03/06/06 03:52 PM
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I love this shot!!!
Been thinking, too - at $30 less than an SB-800 flash unit, an Alien Bee 400 unit might be great for blowing out the detail in a background like this?
-Chris
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Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
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I love this shot!!! How close were you physically, and approx. what focal length?
Been thinking, too - at $30 less than an SB-800 flash unit, an Alien Bee 400 unit might be great for blowing out the detail in a background like this?
-Chris
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Re: “High Key” Backgrounds.
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03/06/06 04:37 PM
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Thanks Chris!:) It was at 12mm, all the EXIF data is still there. And he was about 1-2 feet away. I would have to verify that at home for sure, but at 12mm I was very close. I am very pleased with this shot too. It is what I was looking for, and Wiggy hammed it up just right with his, “What you talking bout Willis” head tilt. The price of the Alien Bees and other setups are the one reason I have not went for the SB-800 yet. While I will get one, for some simpler uses, I do like the idea of starting a more serious studio setup. I will work more in the future to reduce my background PP, but here are a couple more shots from that session.
Thanks,
Jeff
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I also don't recommend blowing out the background
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04/03/06 06:12 PM
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... because of the artifacts that may generate on the edge of the subject! This is typical of what I get before post processing ... note that the background isn't blown: When I do decide to intentionally blow the background, it's with a separate light (so the foreground isn't overexposed as well.)
I believe in f/8!
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Re: I also don't recommend blowing out the background
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04/03/06 07:18 PM
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Hey Kenny, thanks! I thought that would be the case. So I guess you adjust the flash to subject distance to get the white background up to near white. My current problem is without a softbox or umbrellas I have issues obtaining uniformity. Thanks for the pointers and inspiration with that great shot! I just love that shot.
Thanks,
Jeff
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