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Are People As Stupid As They Appear To Be?
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07/21/09 11:06 AM
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Jim Garvie
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We were planning to use the attached picture in an ad in Wendy’s magazine. It’s a low resolution picture downloaded using the “Save Photo” feature from this web site:
This is the email I received this morning from a guy who was going to run an image I had taken at the American Rottweiler Club's National Specialty in a magazine. He had found it in a SmugMug Gallery that was posted by the folks who hosted the show with the note that they were for viewing only and referred folks to my commercial site for purchasing. He wrote because the editor of the magazine contacted me and asked if he (and several other people) had permission to use the images in advertising.
Now, aside from the ridiculousness of using a low-rez image in a magazine ad, I'm stunned by the brazen admission that he had simply stolen the image by right-clicking on it. Maybe he had read the article that Preston referred to about how photographers should offer their products for free. Maybe he's just dumb as dirt. But regardless, I informed him -- rather nicely -- that he could not use my image unless he paid for my image. I linked him to my site where he can purchase it and notified the publisher of the magazine that nobody currently has permission to use that image in advertising.
Do the rest of you find this behavior as obnoxious as I do? I'm not surprised that folks would do it but I am amazed that they would admit that they do it. And try to run it in a magazine!!
Jim
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Re: Are People As Stupid As They Appear To Be?
[Re: Jim Poor]
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07/21/09 11:44 AM
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Jim, the editor contacted me so I'm sure she had some questions about why the guy was giving her a low-rez image. The editor knows me, knows what I provide in terms of quality and has been so pleased with our working relationship that she's offered me a free ad in her next issue. I explained to the guy that I wanted him to use my images in advertising. But to do that, he needed to own a version of that image that was usable in advertising. And he needed to pay for it. And, once he apologized and pleaded ignorance (I've always believed you should have an IQ of at least 100 to own a Rottie) I gave him a good deal. I also contacted the person who posted the images and she's removed them from the site. She was as stunned as I was that somebody would simply take them off of the site. I guess I'm just amazed that people are so ethically challenged that they could possibly think that stealing images is OK. The more I learn about people; the more I like my dogs  ! Jim
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Re: Are People As Stupid As They Appear To Be?
[Re: Jim Garvie]
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07/21/09 11:54 AM
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Jim Poor
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Jim, Sounds like it went as well as it could. I'm in a fairly foul mood this afternoon so my response would likely not be nearly as measured as yours. Then again, when I'm not grumpy, I'm too easy so maybe I should do more business when I'm aggravated 
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Re: Are People As Stupid As They Appear To Be?
[Re: Jim Garvie]
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07/21/09 11:55 AM
07/21/09 11:55 AM
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Maybe he had read the article that Preston referred to about how photographers should offer their products for free.
Jim, my point in posting that link was to get a discussion going about how to deal with the 'free' phenomenon, or better yet to use it to our advantage.
In this case, would you allow the usage if the person had purchased a certain size of print. If so, then there you go...buy a print, get the license for the ad for free.
I'm really not a proponent of devaluing work and giving things away for free. I have a mortgage to pay.
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Re: Are People As Stupid As They Appear To Be?
[Re: DavidRamey]
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07/21/09 01:39 PM
07/21/09 01:39 PM
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I would be more inclined to offer a free print with the purchase of an ad license. The fee for an ad license is much more than the price of a print.
You bring up a good point. I assumed that Jim was talking about a breeder ad. I allow usage for breeders with the purchase of one of my packages. If this is a commercial ad (a business, a product, a franchise) then rates are much higher and negotiated separately because the benefit gained from it is much higher. Do others treat breeders the same as commercial?
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