Re: So, let's talk about ethics
[Re: Jim Garvie]
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05/29/07 12:14 PM
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DavidRamey
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Jim It should be a slam dunk in small claims court because all your lawyer has to do is ask the thief for a license of useage and when the thief can not produce a license, you will get your judgment. Then you get to try to collect.
Good Luck and I hope it all goes well for you.
David Ramey Photography
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Re: So, let's talk about ethics
[Re: Jim Garvie]
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05/29/07 01:10 PM
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Peggy Sue
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Good luck with your decision. I will be looking for the response.
Just a note on how oganizations are working to prevent theft. As a member of a national photo group, I worked on a commitee that went into national chains that produced photographs. We were to give them a print to copy that was clearly copyright marked. No matter what they do, we were to follow through and report back on the results. We all had the same chains at the same time.
Then the attorneys would contact the chains like Walmart, Office Max....etc and explain in big money terms about how what they were doing was illegal. Unfortuatley, many of the machines people are now using do not need a human action.
Peggy Sue
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Re: So, let's talk about ethics
[Re: Peggy Sue]
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06/28/07 06:29 PM
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Sarah
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I guess with digital a clever person could copy anything. I would first have my printed releases, that I give the customer and have him sign, stating the proofs are not for any reproduction. The signed release agreement should be enough to scare them away from stealing and if not, good for any lawsuit. I have found that sending a release form to sign and have them return it, has solved any potential problems for me so far. I have pdf versions of all my releases that I can type in the clients name and details. I can either send an email one and have them print and snailmail it back or have a printed out copy for them to sign.
I would use a pdf (Adobe Acrobat PDF maker software) with copy and print protection on it for sending proofs to the client to view. If they are clever they could make a screen capture of the photo but you could also have your copyright notice splashed across the photo, also make the photo fairly small.
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Re: So, let's talk about ethics
[Re: Sarah]
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06/28/07 07:07 PM
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Jim Garvie
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Sarah, good suggestions but maybe not practical for the type of work I do. For a typical All-Breed Show, I'll send out multiple proofs to some 400 people. In a weekend, that's 2 shows and 800 people. To include releases and expect to be able to handle the administrative piece of sending, receiving and filing is simply not practical.
As for the type of proofs, I've sent small. I've sent larger with screened copyright info over the image. I've sent large with copyright. I've sent large without copyright.
When they're small, people can't see them. When they are larger but with screened copyright info, folks can't see the expression of the dog/handler/judge. If large with copyright, it always goes over something they want to see. If no copyright, they scan and steal.
I believe that on-line proofing is the realistic solution but there is the reality that (believe it or not) not everyone has a computer or is web-literate. So, what do you do for those folks?
Creating more process for me is not the right answer. My time is money (or actually it's cost). I need a solution that minimizes my administrative costs while maintaining the number of orders I now get.
Jim
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